5th wheel trailer (gooseneck) is it possible to install

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5th wheel trailer (gooseneck) is it possible to install

Postby sta11ion » Fri Feb 02, 2007 9:11 am

I wanted to buy 2000 and up softop but I wanted to know if anyone installed in the bed a 5 wheel trailer. I was wondering if I did have to do it would it work. I would just upgrade the springs to push the payload from 3300 to about 4300 also what would get in the way in the back . I will modify the engine with a predator ecm upgrade or a bully dog. Upgrade the headers and intercooler and get that kit for 7 and 8 piston for overheating. I believe the tranny should hold If not take it out and put in a allison or upgraded the original. Any suggestion anyone seen or heard of this being done. Thanks
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Postby Mark » Fri Feb 02, 2007 9:52 am

Sorry can't answer your questions myself, but welcome. I am sure that somebody will be along that can answer them though.
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Postby Bondage » Fri Feb 02, 2007 10:22 am

GOOD QUESTION!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I've always wondered this myself because of the horse trailering we do. Where are out H1 gurus? :lol: :where:
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Postby Rich » Fri Feb 02, 2007 10:30 am

Well I know it's problematic in even a short bed truck - i.e. you need a sliding hitch. My guess would be that it would be nearly impossible. The problem is not the towing capacity of the H1 - it's the clearance between the 5th wheel and the cab of the rig.
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Postby Bondage » Fri Feb 02, 2007 10:47 am

Rich wrote:Well I know it's problematic in even a short bed truck - i.e. you need a sliding hitch. My guess would be that it would be nearly impossible. The problem is not the towing capacity of the H1 - it's the clearance between the 5th wheel and the cab of the rig.



That's what I thought - but was wondering if anyone has come up with a viable solution.
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Postby Rich » Fri Feb 02, 2007 11:14 am

Bondage wrote:
Rich wrote:Well I know it's problematic in even a short bed truck - i.e. you need a sliding hitch. My guess would be that it would be nearly impossible. The problem is not the towing capacity of the H1 - it's the clearance between the 5th wheel and the cab of the rig.



That's what I thought - but was wondering if anyone has come up with a viable solution.



Yes, it's called a trailer. :P
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Postby Bondage » Fri Feb 02, 2007 11:22 am

Rich wrote:
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Rich wrote:Well I know it's problematic in even a short bed truck - i.e. you need a sliding hitch. My guess would be that it would be nearly impossible. The problem is not the towing capacity of the H1 - it's the clearance between the 5th wheel and the cab of the rig.



That's what I thought - but was wondering if anyone has come up with a viable solution.



Yes, it's called a trailer. :P


:P :lol:
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Postby Sewie » Fri Feb 02, 2007 2:43 pm

Rich wrote:
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Rich wrote:Well I know it's problematic in even a short bed truck - i.e. you need a sliding hitch. My guess would be that it would be nearly impossible. The problem is not the towing capacity of the H1 - it's the clearance between the 5th wheel and the cab of the rig.



That's what I thought - but was wondering if anyone has come up with a viable solution.



Yes, it's called a trailer. :P


Or the H1 pickup. :yup: ;)
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Postby Andy M » Fri Feb 02, 2007 2:50 pm

Bondage wrote:
Rich wrote:Well I know it's problematic in even a short bed truck - i.e. you need a sliding hitch. My guess would be that it would be nearly impossible. The problem is not the towing capacity of the H1 - it's the clearance between the 5th wheel and the cab of the rig.



That's what I thought - but was wondering if anyone has come up with a viable solution.


The bed is just too short. I think there was even an issue with the 2 passenger truck.
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Postby benallen » Fri Feb 02, 2007 4:43 pm

i also wanted to do this, but it is not possible because of the bed and i was told also because of the independent suspension. But even if you were able to, the truck is way to underpowered to pull anything on a gooseneck. The alphas are the only ones with enough power to have a chance. And why are you wanting to use a gooseneck? whats wront with a pull behind or a pintel hitch trailer?
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Postby Bondage » Fri Feb 02, 2007 5:09 pm

benallen wrote:i also wanted to do this, but it is not possible because of the bed and i was told also because of the independent suspension. But even if you were able to, the truck is way to underpowered to pull anything on a gooseneck. The alphas are the only ones with enough power to have a chance. And why are you wanting to use a gooseneck? whats wront with a pull behind or a pintel hitch trailer?



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Postby sta11ion » Sat Feb 03, 2007 1:54 pm

benallen wrote:i also wanted to do this, but it is not possible because of the bed and i was told also because of the independent suspension. But even if you were able to, the truck is way to underpowered to pull anything on a gooseneck. The alphas are the only ones with enough power to have a chance. And why are you wanting to use a gooseneck? whats wront with a pull behind or a pintel hitch trailer?

The trailer alone is 8000 pounds also I dont think the walls of the bed will interfear here some pics of a truck version with a 5th wheel, as for the power I can fix that and as for the suspension I can always get upgraded springs the frame is a railed so I cant see why not I just would like to know if someone did do this.
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Postby sta11ion » Sat Feb 03, 2007 1:58 pm

HummerNewbie wrote:Sorry can't answer your questions myself, but welcome. I am sure that somebody will be along that can answer them though.

As for the cab I had a escalade ext that was able to clear the height of the walls of the bed and thats over 2 and half feet in height
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Postby Rich » Sat Feb 03, 2007 2:44 pm

it's not the bed I'm concerned about for a open top H1 - it's the front of a fifth wheel camper hitting the back of the passenger area when you are turning. The bed is VERY short.

As for an H1 truck - I can't answer that.
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Postby Rich » Sat Feb 03, 2007 2:48 pm

and thinking further - the hitch assembly must be directly over the axle area. My guess is not only could you not turn - you couldn't even get it hooked up without hitting the cab. This is the reason long bed trucks are used to pull 5th wheels.
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